The Great Micro$oft Conspiracy was Re: [brlug-general] Seeing new DDOS SCO worm on my mail server; how bout you?
Doug Riddle
doug_riddle at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 29 09:00:10 CST 2004
--- John Hebert <johnahebert at yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- will hill <willhill at canadaisp.net> wrote:
> > On 2004.01.28 08:15 Shannon Roddy wrote:
> > >
> > > Doesn't matter if I have any windows systems
> > running. The virus spoofs
> > > the sender's address. So, if you are in
> someone's
> > address book,
> > > chances are "you" are sending out copies of the
> > virus.
> > >
> >
> > That's not what I'm getting at. I want to prove
> > that Microsoft is behind the attack.
>
> That's not science, that's politics. Or religion,
> considering your zealotry. Have you even read the
> analysis on how this virus works?
> See:
> http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=mydoom
>
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.novarg.a@mm.html
>
<Huge Snip?
>
> Maybe you aren't aware of the huge numbers of emails
> being sent. I've read estimates of 1 out of 12
> emails
> sent during this worm infestation are MyDoom.
OK, then, given that current estimates have spam
running at 6 out of ten emails, then why isn't SPAM a
Microsoft plot? Hmm. Does Bill want you to have a
larger, er, ego? Is mS trying to lower your mortgage
rates?
> Odds are
> some _will_ know each other, at least enough to
> propagate. I think the actual extent of the
> propagation shows that it is working.
>
> > Practically, it
> > makes not sense.
>
> Same thing I was thinking.
>
> > I can think of only reasons a
> > virus would spoof A or B's address in mail sent
> off
> > my machine.
>
> I'm afraid to ask.
>
> > The first is that A or B are trusted
> > administrators, that would not hold true across a
> > person's address book.
>
> ???
>
> > The second is that the virus
> > writer wanted to embarrass A or B.
>
> I really doubt that. Maximum propagation of a SCO
> DDOS
> attack is the intent.
Reason C. If you get email from
W$k3Iel at spamfreak.com, or diedie@@Imafreakingvirus.com
you probably will not open it. Or, I wouldn't anyway.
If I get one from John Hebert, I'll open it. And if
it has an attachment that didn't translate, I just
might open that too.
That is the kicker though. Would MS send you a manual
virus? "Pleze to click you here to scruz up you boxen
mine fruend."
>
> By the way, I heard a report on the radio today that
> a
> variant is now spreading that will attack Microsoft
> during the same time period as SCO. If what you are
> saying is true and Microsoft is propagating a DDOS
> attack against itself to make Linux users look like
> nasty hackers, either Bill Gates is an evil genius
> or
> a stupid idiot.
>
> I hardly think the world will blame Linux for the
> actions of a few. Even SCO is not that stupid (note
> their $250K reward for turning in the virus writer).
>
> > Either of these
> > options would require some kind of an external
> list
> > and great premeditation. Your inclusion, as a
> Linux
> > Zealot is suspicious.
>
> Will, you really need to get out of the house more.
>
> > Being a good zealot myself, I think that Microsoft
> > is behind this and wants to make free software
> users
> > look as bad as they can.
>
We need help for this? I thought we had enough
aluminium hat wearers to take care or image problem
ourselves.
> Please stop.
>
> > They have lists of their
> > "enemies" who advocate free software and
> > occasionally complain when Microsoft failures and
> > design flaws cause internet turmoil, restrictive
> ISP
> > policies, and utility blackouts.
>
> Waitasec. You're kidding. Right? This is funny.
So, are the execs getting uzis and gas masks with
their stock options, or is it cyanide pills with the
keys to the executive washroom?
>
> > They have already
> > suckered CNN and others to run headlines about
> > "Linux War Weapons", and others have run articles
> > filled with giggling anarchist straw men.
>
> Now I get it! That's pretty funny... I really hope
> you're kidding.
>
> > A
> > miltibillion dollar press just used the latest
> > Microsoft transmitted disease to smear people who
> > give their work away without expectations of
> reward.
>
They're after the priests and red cross workers too!
This must be stopped!
> If you are not kidding, then you are one spooky
> dude.
>
> > It's disgusting, but hopefully transparent enough
> > to backfire.
>
> Please keep at least 100' away from me in the
> future.
>
> > So, is it true? Shannon, were your machines
> clean?
> > Has anyone else here been smeared by spoofing? Is
> > there enough mail lying around to build a solid
> > statistical case?
>
> Wow. I'm not sure how to respond to that. I've run
> out
Dang it John, I told you to keep you aluminium hat on,
now the rays got you man.
>
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Warmest Regards,
Doug Riddle
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